Avengers Vs X-Men Already Happened In The MCU Multiverse According To Bold Marvel Theory
Spoiler Alert! This article contains spoilers for Deadpool & Wolverine.
Summary
Bringing Hugh Jackman's Wolverine back after his death in Logan was a big challenge for the MCU, but Deadpool & Wolverine successfully sent off Jackman's original Wolverine with a comedic confirmation of his death before introducing a brand-new Wolverine variant. This new Wolverine is more animalistic, more jaded, and more comic-accurate than the original, and he has an even more painful past than the Wolverine audiences followed for seventeen years. While not officially part of Deadpool & Wolverine's 100+ easter eggs and references, a couple of details hint at the Avengers' involvement in Wolverine's tragic backstory.
Humans Attacked Mutants In Wolverine’s Universe Wolverine Failed His Universe Because He Couldn't Stop Humans From Exterminating Mutants![]()
Custom Image by Nicolas Ayala In Deadpool & Wolverine, TVA agent Paradox scolds Deadpool for choosing the worst Wolverine variant to serve as a replacement for Earth-10005's anchor being, as this variant allegedly "failed his whole world". Later on, Wolverine confesses to Deadpool that the reason why he considers himself a failure is that he was too drunk to fight back when his universe's X-Men were attacked by humans. Wolverine's backstory suggests that humans launched an attack on mutantkind and successfully exterminated all mutants, leaving Wolverine to wander aimlessly and regret his life decisions before Deadpool came to recruit him.
While Deadpool & Wolverine doesn't show these events on screen, the X-Men's deaths are a recorded part of Wolverine's universe at the TVA, and Cassandra Nova is able to see Wolverine's tragic backstory herself by tapping into Wolverine's memories. Given that Wolverine is back in action by the end of Deadpool & Wolverine and both Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars can easily bring him back, the MCU's next two Avengers movies could feature a short flashback to the X-Men's downfall in Wolverine's alternate universe, possibly revealing an essential detail that Wolverine didn't mention to Deadpool.
Wolverine Seemingly Hates His Universe’s Avengers Hugh Jackman's New Wolverine Variant May Have A Complicated History With His Version Of The Avengers![]()
Mutantkind's persecution by humans is a constant in almost all X-Men stories across all formats and eras. However, the X-Men tend to fight back and prevent their own extinction, or at least delay it indefinitely. Wolverine's classic costume also suggests that the X-Men were established heroes and a tight-knit team. Therefore, humans must have used a very effective weapon or system to kill mutants so effectively that heroes like Beast, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Storm, and Professor X couldn't do anything to stop them. Otherwise, humans may have been aided by a team of mutant-killing superhumans in Wolverine's universe: the Avengers.
If the Avengers exist in this Wolverine's universe, they might have helped the anti-mutant humans hunt down their mutant victims
When Deadpool mentions the Avengers in an abandoned restaurant inside the Void, Wolverine doesn't miss a beat to respond "f*ck the Avengers". Although Wolverine doesn't elaborate, his response is so quick and instinctive that it denotes a personal grudge against Earth's Mightiest Heroes. If the Avengers exist in this Wolverine's universe, they might have helped the anti-mutant humans hunt down their mutant victims, provided humans with the necessary tools to accomplish their goals, or at the very least turned a blind eye to mutantkind's extermination — all reasonable explanations for Wolverine's hatred towards the Avengers.
Wolverine Killed Good And Bad People Indiscriminately Wolverine Regrets Killing Good People After The X-Men's Deaths Close As Cassandra Nova learns Wolverine's tragic past in Deadpool & Wolverine, Wolverine drops his guard and confesses that the anger he felt over the X-Men's deaths led him to kill people, both good and bad. Wolverine seems very regretful over this part of his backstory, but Cassandra's examination of Wolverine's memories is cut short. While Wolverine's admission of his murderous rampage may refer to the deaths of non-violent criminals or individuals tangentially connected to the X-Men's deaths, it could also refer to Wolverine's revenge on the Avengers or the X-Men's last-minute battle against the Avengers before their death.
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Related Deadpool & Wolverine Post-Credits Scenes Explained Deadpool & Wolverine has two credits scenes, so we break down what they both mean for the future and historic legacy of Marvel movies.
1 Wolverine might have killed some or all of the Avengers in his universe, which would explain why he's considered a failure by the TVA and by himself. Killing Avengers would also cement Wolverine's infamy in his universe, as he would be seen as the person responsible for the X-Men's deaths out of negligence and the Avengers' deaths out of sheer revenge. Of course, the X-Men wouldn't have gone down without a fight, and some of them could have taken down some of the Avengers them, motivating the Avengers to retaliate with lethal force in a deadlier, alternate-universe version of Avengers vs X-Men.
Wolverine’s regret would also suggest that the Avengers’ motivations would have been more complex than money, influence, or anti-mutant hatred.
How The Avengers’ Role In Mutant Extinction Would Compare To The Original AvX Comics A Brutal Version Of Marvel's Avengers Vs X-Men Storyline Could Fit Wolverine's Tragic Backstory![]()
If the Avengers played a role in the X-Men's deaths in Wolverine's home universe, Earth's Mightiest Heroes would have attacked the X-Men for various possible reasons. The Avengers might have considered mutants a threat to the world, or gotten manipulated by anti-mutant groups to attack mutants in order to supposedly defend humans. Alternatively, the Avengers could have attacked the X-Men for very similar reasons to why they came into conflict with mutants in Marvel Comics' original Avengers vs X-Men storyline, where Earth's Mightiest Heroes try to stop the Phoenix Force from coming back and potentially destroying the Earth.
The only official information about the X-Men's downfall in Wolverine's home universe is that humans attacked mutants. Still, a Deadpool & Wolverine sequel or another multiverse-themed MCU movie could reveal that humans instigated the Avengers' attack against mutants with the excuse that the Phoenix Force's arrival would lead to human extinction. After all, the Avengers came off as paranoid, self-proclaimed saviors by the end of the original Avengers vs X-Men, and the version of the Avengers that exists in Wolverine's universe may not be as genuinely heroic as Earth-616's Avengers.
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Director Shawn Levy Writers Rhett Reese , Paul Wernick , Shawn Levy , Ryan Reynolds , Zeb Wells , Rob Liefeld , Fabian Nicieza Cast Ryan Reynolds , Hugh Jackman , Emma Corrin , Morena Baccarin , Rob Delaney , Leslie Uggams , Karan Soni , Matthew Macfadyen , Brianna Hildebrand , Shioli Kutsuna , Stefan Kapicic , Lewis Tan , Randal Reeder , Jennifer Garner , Aaron Stanford , Billy Clements , Ollie Palmer , Chris Hemsworth , Rob McElhenney Release Date July 26, 2024 Runtime 127 Minutes Franchise(s) Deadpool , Marvel Cinematic Universe Expand Upcoming Marvel Movies Release Date Captain America: Brave New World February 14, 2025 Thunderbolts* May 2, 2025 The Fantastic Four: First Steps July 25, 2025 Blade November 7, 2025 Avengers: Doomsday May 1, 2026 Avengers: Secret Wars May 7, 2027
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Summary
- Hugh Jackman's new Wolverine variant allegedly failed to stop humans from exterminating mutants, leading to his regret over killing good and bad people in Deadpool & Wolverine.
- Wolverine's "f*ck the Avengers" line in Deadpool & Wolverine may suggest that he holds a grudge against them, perhaps because they had a hand in the X-Men's deaths.
- The Avengers might have helped humans attack mutants in Wolverine's universe, leading to the mutants' annihilation and Wolverine's downward spiral.
Bringing Hugh Jackman's Wolverine back after his death in Logan was a big challenge for the MCU, but Deadpool & Wolverine successfully sent off Jackman's original Wolverine with a comedic confirmation of his death before introducing a brand-new Wolverine variant. This new Wolverine is more animalistic, more jaded, and more comic-accurate than the original, and he has an even more painful past than the Wolverine audiences followed for seventeen years. While not officially part of Deadpool & Wolverine's 100+ easter eggs and references, a couple of details hint at the Avengers' involvement in Wolverine's tragic backstory.
Humans Attacked Mutants In Wolverine’s Universe Wolverine Failed His Universe Because He Couldn't Stop Humans From Exterminating Mutants
Custom Image by Nicolas Ayala In Deadpool & Wolverine, TVA agent Paradox scolds Deadpool for choosing the worst Wolverine variant to serve as a replacement for Earth-10005's anchor being, as this variant allegedly "failed his whole world". Later on, Wolverine confesses to Deadpool that the reason why he considers himself a failure is that he was too drunk to fight back when his universe's X-Men were attacked by humans. Wolverine's backstory suggests that humans launched an attack on mutantkind and successfully exterminated all mutants, leaving Wolverine to wander aimlessly and regret his life decisions before Deadpool came to recruit him. While Deadpool & Wolverine doesn't show these events on screen, the X-Men's deaths are a recorded part of Wolverine's universe at the TVA, and Cassandra Nova is able to see Wolverine's tragic backstory herself by tapping into Wolverine's memories. Given that Wolverine is back in action by the end of Deadpool & Wolverine and both Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars can easily bring him back, the MCU's next two Avengers movies could feature a short flashback to the X-Men's downfall in Wolverine's alternate universe, possibly revealing an essential detail that Wolverine didn't mention to Deadpool.
Wolverine Seemingly Hates His Universe’s Avengers Hugh Jackman's New Wolverine Variant May Have A Complicated History With His Version Of The Avengers
Mutantkind's persecution by humans is a constant in almost all X-Men stories across all formats and eras. However, the X-Men tend to fight back and prevent their own extinction, or at least delay it indefinitely. Wolverine's classic costume also suggests that the X-Men were established heroes and a tight-knit team. Therefore, humans must have used a very effective weapon or system to kill mutants so effectively that heroes like Beast, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Storm, and Professor X couldn't do anything to stop them. Otherwise, humans may have been aided by a team of mutant-killing superhumans in Wolverine's universe: the Avengers. If the Avengers exist in this Wolverine's universe, they might have helped the anti-mutant humans hunt down their mutant victims
When Deadpool mentions the Avengers in an abandoned restaurant inside the Void, Wolverine doesn't miss a beat to respond "f*ck the Avengers". Although Wolverine doesn't elaborate, his response is so quick and instinctive that it denotes a personal grudge against Earth's Mightiest Heroes. If the Avengers exist in this Wolverine's universe, they might have helped the anti-mutant humans hunt down their mutant victims, provided humans with the necessary tools to accomplish their goals, or at the very least turned a blind eye to mutantkind's extermination — all reasonable explanations for Wolverine's hatred towards the Avengers.
Wolverine Killed Good And Bad People Indiscriminately Wolverine Regrets Killing Good People After The X-Men's Deaths Close As Cassandra Nova learns Wolverine's tragic past in Deadpool & Wolverine, Wolverine drops his guard and confesses that the anger he felt over the X-Men's deaths led him to kill people, both good and bad. Wolverine seems very regretful over this part of his backstory, but Cassandra's examination of Wolverine's memories is cut short. While Wolverine's admission of his murderous rampage may refer to the deaths of non-violent criminals or individuals tangentially connected to the X-Men's deaths, it could also refer to Wolverine's revenge on the Avengers or the X-Men's last-minute battle against the Avengers before their death.
2:43
Related Deadpool & Wolverine Post-Credits Scenes Explained Deadpool & Wolverine has two credits scenes, so we break down what they both mean for the future and historic legacy of Marvel movies.1 Wolverine might have killed some or all of the Avengers in his universe, which would explain why he's considered a failure by the TVA and by himself. Killing Avengers would also cement Wolverine's infamy in his universe, as he would be seen as the person responsible for the X-Men's deaths out of negligence and the Avengers' deaths out of sheer revenge. Of course, the X-Men wouldn't have gone down without a fight, and some of them could have taken down some of the Avengers them, motivating the Avengers to retaliate with lethal force in a deadlier, alternate-universe version of Avengers vs X-Men.
Wolverine’s regret would also suggest that the Avengers’ motivations would have been more complex than money, influence, or anti-mutant hatred.
How The Avengers’ Role In Mutant Extinction Would Compare To The Original AvX Comics A Brutal Version Of Marvel's Avengers Vs X-Men Storyline Could Fit Wolverine's Tragic Backstory
If the Avengers played a role in the X-Men's deaths in Wolverine's home universe, Earth's Mightiest Heroes would have attacked the X-Men for various possible reasons. The Avengers might have considered mutants a threat to the world, or gotten manipulated by anti-mutant groups to attack mutants in order to supposedly defend humans. Alternatively, the Avengers could have attacked the X-Men for very similar reasons to why they came into conflict with mutants in Marvel Comics' original Avengers vs X-Men storyline, where Earth's Mightiest Heroes try to stop the Phoenix Force from coming back and potentially destroying the Earth. The only official information about the X-Men's downfall in Wolverine's home universe is that humans attacked mutants. Still, a Deadpool & Wolverine sequel or another multiverse-themed MCU movie could reveal that humans instigated the Avengers' attack against mutants with the excuse that the Phoenix Force's arrival would lead to human extinction. After all, the Avengers came off as paranoid, self-proclaimed saviors by the end of the original Avengers vs X-Men, and the version of the Avengers that exists in Wolverine's universe may not be as genuinely heroic as Earth-616's Avengers.
Deadpool & Wolverine R Director Shawn Levy Writers Rhett Reese , Paul Wernick , Shawn Levy , Ryan Reynolds , Zeb Wells , Rob Liefeld , Fabian Nicieza Cast Ryan Reynolds , Hugh Jackman , Emma Corrin , Morena Baccarin , Rob Delaney , Leslie Uggams , Karan Soni , Matthew Macfadyen , Brianna Hildebrand , Shioli Kutsuna , Stefan Kapicic , Lewis Tan , Randal Reeder , Jennifer Garner , Aaron Stanford , Billy Clements , Ollie Palmer , Chris Hemsworth , Rob McElhenney Release Date July 26, 2024 Runtime 127 Minutes Franchise(s) Deadpool , Marvel Cinematic Universe Expand Upcoming Marvel Movies Release Date Captain America: Brave New World February 14, 2025 Thunderbolts* May 2, 2025 The Fantastic Four: First Steps July 25, 2025 Blade November 7, 2025 Avengers: Doomsday May 1, 2026 Avengers: Secret Wars May 7, 2027
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