DC Star’s Wonder Woman 3 Comments Make More Sense After Joker 2’s Failure
DC superhero movies have been struggling for a while, and ahead of the official DC Universe relaunch, movies like Joker: Folie a Deux appear to be adding to the pile of commercial failures, while other safer bets are ignored. While the DCEU was spiralling out of control almost from the moment it started, there were some big hits that came out of the struggling franchise. The first Aquaman passed the billion dollar mark, becoming the instant leader of the pack, and Wonder Woman followed close behind with an over $800 million box office (via The Numbers).
While looking back at the missteps of the franchise, stars such as Connie Nielsen, the woman who played Queen Hippolyta, have commented on the unusual choices made by the studios to simply scrap financially viable products, like a potential Wonder Woman 3, in favor of starting from scratch and potentially draining even more funds on failed attempts. In the light of Joker 2"s spectacular fall from grace, having gone from a billion dollar hit like the original 2019 movie, to a sequel that"s struggling to reach $200,000, it"s worth considering why Warner Bros. is flailing in this way.
Not Making Wonder Woman 3 Looks Different After Joker: Folie à Deux's Reception Scrapping All The DCEU Projects And Future Plans Seems More Reckless Close Looking closer at the numbers, it"s clear that Warner Bros. and DC Studios had a lot to consider when it came to the reboot and what movies should be impacted. Joker 2 was expected to be a huge hit considering the earlier entries" success, but when looking back at any of the other DCEU projects and their sequels, many of them had a major drop-off. Aquaman went from a billion dollar first entry to a sequel that earned less than half of that figure despite the increase in production budget. However, when Aquaman had plans for a sequel in place, Joker was initially released as a solo movie.
Why Wonder Woman 3 Could've Been A Safer Bet Than Joker 2 Wonder Woman 3 Was Always Meant To Happen Close Ultimately, Joker"s success meant that the studios put pressure on them to create a sequel, and due to its detachment from the core DCEU, they saw it as a movie that could still get made despite the DCU reboot. However, at the time of Joker"s release in 2019, director Todd Phillips, and the star, Joaquin Phoenix were clear about the fact that it was made as a standalone movie. So, when a sequel was announced, it wasn"t exactly expected, or even wanted by fans of the original. Add to that the significant departure in the sequel"s approach and delivery, and it explains some of the reasons why it flopped.
Movie
Production Budget
Box Office
Wonder Woman
$150,000,000
$817,691,766
Wonder Woman 1984
$200,000,000
$166,360,232
Joker
$55,000,000
$1,063,574,394
Joker: Folie à Deux
$190,000,000
$167,883,843
All figures above have been sourced through The-Numbers.com
Meanwhile, Wonder Woman director, Patty Jenkins, and star, Gal Gadot, both had excitement and anticipation for their third entry. Announcing that not only would a Wonder Woman 3 not happen, but also that the entire universe was being scrapped in favor of new stories, new actors, and a whole new universe, the DCEU lost any credibility, validity, or intrigue. Had the studio said that they planned to continue the stories forward until a natural reboot could take place, like The Flash movie or some other event, Wonder Woman 3 could have been made, and it likely would have exceeded the box office total of the jarring Joker sequel.
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While looking back at the missteps of the franchise, stars such as Connie Nielsen, the woman who played Queen Hippolyta, have commented on the unusual choices made by the studios to simply scrap financially viable products, like a potential Wonder Woman 3, in favor of starting from scratch and potentially draining even more funds on failed attempts. In the light of Joker 2"s spectacular fall from grace, having gone from a billion dollar hit like the original 2019 movie, to a sequel that"s struggling to reach $200,000, it"s worth considering why Warner Bros. is flailing in this way.
Not Making Wonder Woman 3 Looks Different After Joker: Folie à Deux's Reception Scrapping All The DCEU Projects And Future Plans Seems More Reckless Close Looking closer at the numbers, it"s clear that Warner Bros. and DC Studios had a lot to consider when it came to the reboot and what movies should be impacted. Joker 2 was expected to be a huge hit considering the earlier entries" success, but when looking back at any of the other DCEU projects and their sequels, many of them had a major drop-off. Aquaman went from a billion dollar first entry to a sequel that earned less than half of that figure despite the increase in production budget. However, when Aquaman had plans for a sequel in place, Joker was initially released as a solo movie.
"I mean, frankly, I don’t understand it. [Wonder Woman] made $800 million just in the movie theaters, and it has an enormous and passionate, passionate fan base. These are spectacular films, and there’s just no reason I can understand whatsoever for not investing in that. If I were a business person, I would say that’s money on the table. It’s right there. Plus every time we’ve done it, [it was] with budgets that were way smaller than any of the other DC budgets."Applying the same kind of analysis to Wonder Woman"s figures, the first movie took home more than $800 million, and the sequel had a significant drop in earnings, with a total of nearly $170 million. However, Wonder Woman 1984 had the misfortune of coming after the DC reshuffle, and many fans felt that the movies lost their attention when they had no stakes or future. Announcing early on that many of these staple projects were going to be scrapped, and the actors discarded, meant fans felt betrayed and saw no point in watching these dead-end projects. While Joker 2 existed on the outskirts of the Elseworlds, it had even less reason to get a sequel.
- Connie Nielsen
Why Wonder Woman 3 Could've Been A Safer Bet Than Joker 2 Wonder Woman 3 Was Always Meant To Happen Close Ultimately, Joker"s success meant that the studios put pressure on them to create a sequel, and due to its detachment from the core DCEU, they saw it as a movie that could still get made despite the DCU reboot. However, at the time of Joker"s release in 2019, director Todd Phillips, and the star, Joaquin Phoenix were clear about the fact that it was made as a standalone movie. So, when a sequel was announced, it wasn"t exactly expected, or even wanted by fans of the original. Add to that the significant departure in the sequel"s approach and delivery, and it explains some of the reasons why it flopped.
Movie
Production Budget
Box Office
Wonder Woman
$150,000,000
$817,691,766
Wonder Woman 1984
$200,000,000
$166,360,232
Joker
$55,000,000
$1,063,574,394
Joker: Folie à Deux
$190,000,000
$167,883,843
All figures above have been sourced through The-Numbers.com
Meanwhile, Wonder Woman director, Patty Jenkins, and star, Gal Gadot, both had excitement and anticipation for their third entry. Announcing that not only would a Wonder Woman 3 not happen, but also that the entire universe was being scrapped in favor of new stories, new actors, and a whole new universe, the DCEU lost any credibility, validity, or intrigue. Had the studio said that they planned to continue the stories forward until a natural reboot could take place, like The Flash movie or some other event, Wonder Woman 3 could have been made, and it likely would have exceeded the box office total of the jarring Joker sequel.
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